Unscripted: The Gospel or Nothing! -- Worry

Josiah Walker joined Bryan Catherman on Salty Believer Unscripted to talk about how the gospel speaks into worry. Using the Gospel Conversation Guide (often called The Three Circles), they talk about how the gospel should relieve our worry and the brokeness we feel because of worry. Listen to this episode, “Worry” here:

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The Gospel or Nothing! -- Money and the Gospel

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Jared Jenkins and Bryan Catherman discuss how the gospel speaks into money spending and debt problems. Debt can lead us to act poorly in our brokenness. Spending problems could bring about unwise decisions and that can open the door to more problems. God has a design for this. The gospel brings us back into God’s design. Listen to this episode, “Money and the Gospel” here:

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The Gospel or Nothing! -- Porn Addiction

How does the gospel bring redemption and recovery to the person addicted to pornography? In our series, The Gospel or Nothing!, Jared Jenkins and Bryan Catherman discuss how the gospel practically redeems us from our brokenness. In this specific episode, they explore how the gospel deals with porn addiction. Using the gospel conversation tool often called “The Three Circles,” they work through the gospel. Listen to this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, “The Gospel or Nothing! — Porn Addiction,” here:

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LETTERS TO MY STUDENTS by Jason K. Allen

Dr. Jason K. Allen's new book, Letters to My Students: Volume 1 On Preaching (B&H, 2019) is a home run! Dr. Allen is the President of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and a professor of preaching. It shows. Much like Charles Spurgeon's lectures to his pastor's college students, Allen offers marvelous, insightful help to preachers. This 172-page book is helpful for both those just starting to preach as well as those who have been preaching for years.

The book is broken into 20, quick, well-written chapters that are a joy to read. Starting with the call to preach and moving all the way to the seasoned preacher, Allen shares biblical insights as well as helpful tips he's learned from hears of experience. He also shares some of his journey as he has grown and improved in the exposition of God's Word.

While the book has a specific audience, it remains an excellent overview and help for new and experienced preachers. It should probably also be included in future survey and introduction to preaching courses.

If I were to suggest any improvements, it would be that a volume 1 should probably have a volume 2 and 3. Let's hope those are forthcoming.

Here’s a video review with more detail:

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ABOVE ALL by J.D. Greear

J.D. Greear, Pastor of the Summit Church and the President of the Southern Baptist Convention, has a new book out. The book shares, by no coincidence, the same title as the 2019 Convention theme. It’s called Above All: The Gospel is the Source of the Church’s Renewal (B&H, 2019). There's no doubt that Greear is passionate about the gospel, and how we live it out in the Christian life, but I had my doubts about this book offering anything more than what's already in Greear's previous books. I was wrong.

After the SBC annual meeting, I was a bit more curious about what he had to say in the pages of Above All. It didn’t hurt that I got a free copy at the SBC meeting. I started flipping through the book and decided to give it a read. I'm glad I did. It wasn't that there's anything new in this book, but it's another reminder of our priorities and how we view (or don't) view the gospel of Jesus in all we do as believers and as the Church. This book is about how we position (or reposition) the gospel in our worldview.

Greear is serious about the subject, and that comes out in the pages. His writing style, as usual, is fun and easy to read. It's punchy but includes some thought breaks and jokes and light-hearted stuff too.

Unfortunately, this book seemed rushed. I suspect the goal was to get this in the hands of Southern Baptist before the annual meeting (or at the meeting). The cost of the rush seems to have been in the editing. It wasn't as tight as it could be and there were typos here and there. (This reviewer has typos and problems all the time, but that's not normal for B&H or Greear.)

I discussed the breakdown, the nuts and bolts, and many other thoughts in my video review. I also point out some examples and discuss some of the illustrations he used. You can watch the video here:

I recommend this book to Christians who want a reminder of the importance and significance of the gospel in everyday life and the life of the church.

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The Gospel or Nothing! -- Jimmy Scroggins on the Three Circles Tool

Jimmy Scroggins, Pastor of Family Church in southern Florida and the creator of the Three Circles Gospel Conversation Tool, met with Bryan Catherman to talk about the gospel and how the tool helps us see how the gospel works in our lives. Salty Believer Unscripted is in a new series about how the gospel speaks into everything. It’s called “The Gospel of Nothing!” Using the Three Circles, Jared Jenkins and Bryan Catherman are exploring various issues and how the gospel transforms the broken things of our reality. Since they’re using the tool as the lens by which they are looking through for this series, they thought it might be helpful to talk with Jimmy about it.

We’re grateful for Jimmy’s time to chat. In this episode, he shares where the tool came from and how he has used it in his ministry. It’s so much more than just a gospel sharing tool. It’s a conversation tool to help us articulate the gospel. Listen to this episode, “The Gospel of Nothing! — Three Circles with Jimmy Scroggins” here:

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The Gospel or Nothing! (A New "Unscripted" Series)

Do Christians (at least in America) truly stand on the gospel of Jesus Christ? Is the gospel our worldview? Does the gospel inform all of our choices? Are we open to allowing the gospel to transform every aspect of our lives? These are some of the questions this series will address.

In the first episode, Jared Jenkins and Bryan Catherman offer an introduction to the series. They also articulate the gospel and why it must be above everything else. If Jesus is not the solution, we don’t have the gospel. That’s why this series matters. Listen to the introduction here:

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"Be Reconciled to God" (2 Cor. 5:17-21)

I go through seasons when God works out one big idea with me. Often, they are challenging seasons. In these seasons, I see the one big idea over and over again, no matter where I’m looking. It comes up in my devotional reading, prayer, conversations, sermons, and even in some unexpected places. In this season, the idea has had a great deal to do with preaching the gospel to my own soul. How does the gospel speak into my life daily? How does the gospel of Jesus redeem my situation today? How do Christians see the necessity of the gospel all around them?

It’s been a life-changing seasons. And it is changing my ministry.

In addition, I’m asking, “what’s stopping Christians from sharing the gospel?” I suppose one roadblock is found in the reality that we don’t know how to help our brothers and sisters walking out of brokenness and into the gospel. Neither do we know how to preach the gospel to ourselves. Maybe we really don’t trust it like we should? I’ve been in a season that’s teaching me this big idea and I’ve been sharing this idea with all the mission teams that have come to work with me at Redeeming Life in Salt Lake.

From where does God give me the strength to be transformed in his design?

The above sermon is my attempt to articulate what I’ve learned in this season and answer how we preach the gospel to ourselves. I preached this sermon at FBC Floresville in Texas back in March of 2018. I hope you find it helpful and I pray it helps you walk faithfully in the gospel of Jesus Christ.

For the Kingdom!
Bryan Catherman

Unscripted: Catherman on "The Approved Workman"

Josiah Walker sat down with Bryan Catherman to talk about the book project, The Approved Workman: Developing Faithful Disciples Into Tested Leaders. This book, written by Catherman, serves as a roadmap to help pastors and those wanting to become pastors with a roadmap. Seminary is a great option for training, but why? What’s the goal? What’s the plan? Is there something to work alongside seminary? What about the co-vocational guy? How about someone who just can’t go to seminary? Indigenous training? What about a plan for ordination? The Approved Workman is a tool to get this conversation started and help pastors start training up others. Bryan talks about the book, it’s strengths and weaknesses, and how it might be helpful for those training to become pastors. Listen to the podcast here:

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Fishing for People: It's a Both/And

When it comes to reaching the lost, there's tension between random outreach and personal relationships. But going door to door, handing out tracts, and doing outreach events are not at odds with having personal relationships with friends, neighbors, and co-workers. One is like fishing the Atlantic Ocean with nets, and the other is like dry-fly fishing the Colorado River. If we want to be proficient fishers of people for the sake of Christ's Kingdom, we should do both kinds of fishing depending on where we're at the time -- on the ocean or wading into the river.

The different approaches have different strengths and weaknesses, although both are faithful.

One takes us to the strangers we've yet to meet. It connects us to the people who look different than us, the neighbors we've struggled to get to know, and those with who God might have made an appointment outside of our normal schedules. Fishing with nets opens doors we could have never planned for on our own. This method is like looking for the person of peace that Jesus discussed when he set his disciples ahead of him to do this kind of work. (See Luke 10.) This kind of outreach faithfully shows us where God is working and gives us new opportunities to join him where and when we see that work. When we're faithful with this method, we see things well beyond our little world.

The other approach digs into the relationships where God has placed us. There's an opportunity to model the Christian faith for a long time, over many of life's circumstances. Here, we build relationship equity and the seek opportunities for gospel seeds to be cast many, many times. Discipleship is a strong possibility too. This method is life on life, but only with a small, few people.

Rather than arguing for one method over the other, how about we celebrate how God uses both? How about we seek to be faithful in doing both? Lets see the mission field where God has placed us and be willing to go wherever else he's calling us.

Seminary Extension with Ward Curto

Ward Curto was our guest on Salty Believer Unscripted to chat about his experience with Seminary Extension. Seminary Extension is a true correspondence theological education program. Assignments come in the mail and you mail your work back. It’s a diploma program that utilizes the six SBC seminaries and snail mail. Many might ask if there’s still a place for a true correspondence program in a wired and wireless world. That’s a fair question, but not everyone is in a place where the internet is easy or available. Seminary Extension still uses paper and the postal system. Maybe it’s right for you. Especially if you live in a place that’s not internet deficient

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Ward Curto discusses his experiences with Seminary Extension. Listen here:

Is Seminary Extension Right for You? with Ward Curto

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How to Pick a Good Daily Devotional

It's essential that followers of Jesus read God's Word, the Bible, regularly. Daily is probably best because God's Word provides us with the things we need to not only sustain life as a believer but to flourish as Christians. Another tool in the Christian disciplines that helps with our spiritual formation is reading other materials other than the Bible in a devotional way. It might even be that you incorporate a daily devotional into your time quiet time or study time with the Lord. What is a daily devotional? And how do I select a good devotional to read?

In this video, Bryan Catherman answers these questions and offers some examples. He even recommends some excellent devotionals that might help get you started.

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Unscripted: Thoughts on the 2019 SBC Annual Meeting

Bryan Catherman attended the 2019 SBC Annual Meeting in Birmingham, Alabama this year. in years past, he stayed in Utah and watched the convention via the streaming channel. This year, however, he explored the showroom floor, participated in a committee, attended many ancillary meetings and discussions, and participated in the convention meetings. There was lots of worship, times of prayers, panel discussions, and business. But what people were really interested it is all the swag. Bryan Catherman and Jared discussed the annual pros, cons, ups, and downs. Listen to this episode here:

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Saving the Reformation by W. Robert Godfrey

Godfrey, W. Robert. Saving the Reformation: The Pastoral Theology of the Canons of Dort. York, Penn: Reformation Trust, 2019.

Dr. W. Robert Godfrey has brought about a new book exploring the Canons of Dort. In its pages, he looks at the history of the synod, the backdrop, the theology, and the canons. There were five heads of doctrine (or points) from the Remonstrants (Arminians). The synod addressed these five points with five responses. What people often think of Calvinism (TULIP) comes from this response, although the reaction doesn't perfectly line up with TULIP as we know it, nor is it a complete summary of Calvinism.

Godfrey offers a new translation of the Cannons of Dort which are smoother to read than previous translations. Following the new translation, he provides commentary and thoughts on the material, although he's clearly biased. He does not claim to be neutral. Appendix 1 is a new look at Jacobus Arminius and his beliefs.

Saving the Reformation is a helpful book and gives us a great look at what's behind Calvinism. I put forward that most New Calvinist have no idea what's behind what they believe. I suspect most New Calvinist would argue against some of the things Dort suggests if they didn't know where it came from, which is why need to go back to the sources.

Here are two videos from Godfrey about Saving the Reformation. You'll find a shorter video and a longer video interview. The more extended interview is excellent, but if you don't have the 20 minutes to watch, the shorter video offers a 1-minute summary of why we should read this book.

I highly recommend Saving the Reformation to anyone interested in Church history, theology, Calvinism, or Arminianism. It's an interesting and enjoyable read.

Finally, if you’d like more of my thoughts on this book, here’s a video review I did.

The Naturally Supernatural Life, with Alex Absalom

Author, pastor, and missiologist Alex Absalom joined Bryan Catherman on Salty Believer Unscripted to explore the question, “What does the Christian life look like when it’s lived to the fullest?” Absalom wears many hats. He is presently working on a series of books about the naturally supernatural life and he’s been highly involved in equipping the church to be more outreach focused by way of missional communities. He’s the co-author of Discipleship That Fits: The Five Kinds of Relationships God Uses to Help Us Grow. He’s a pastor seeking to grow a house church movement in Southern California. You’ll find him working with 100 Movements. And you can find him and his many other projects on line at www.DandelionResourcing.com.

There were three components of the question Bryan posed to Alex. The question again: “What does the Christian life look like when it’s lived to the fullest?” Alex discussed what that looks like regarding the power and empowerment believers receive from God as we join him in his mission, what it looks like to be missional, and what we might see over the long life of one maturing in Christ. Listen to his episode (“The Naturally Supernatural Life”) here:

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The Approved Workman by Bryan Catherman

I’m pleased to announce that I’ve written a book and it’s now available.

Over the years, I've sat with a few young men who have expressed that they want to be pastors. Sometimes they talk of going to Bible college or seminary, but often they don't have the funds or can’t go. Boots-on-the-ground training--that's what they'd like from me. Some conversations have to do with becoming a missionary in a far-away land. Other discussions have something to do with church-planting, especially bi-vocational church planting. The church planters and church planting networks dialogue on this idea too.

The big question: How do we train local pastors for the local mission field?

There are many resources out there. One could easily use the free stuff at BiblicalTraining.org. There are training programs like Gateway's Advance program. NAMB has a Multiplication Pipeline. And of course, there's seminary on campus or online. The trouble is not finding the resources. There are plenty of resources. The more significant challenge is having a good, customizable roadmap that takes the best advantage of the available resources. That’s the heart and intention behind the book.

After a few years of this ongoing conversation, I finally wrote out a roadmap. It’s called The Approved Workman: Developing Faithful Disciples into Tested Leaders. In 135 bound pages, I set out to explain each step of the journey and then provide something of a workbook to chart the progress. Starting with a section called The Initial Christian Life, I plot a course through prayer, evangelism and discipleship, learning to lead small groups, and then on to the training of a pastor. To conclude, I also added a section on sharpening the saw as a seasoned pastor and an appendix about how to conduct an ordination board or council, to include what topics to examine in the candidate.

I intend that a pastor (or trainer) and a trainee will work through the book together. I also expect that a wide variety of resources will be used so the book is written in such a way that edits and additions are simple.

Is it enough? I don't know.

The early part of the journey is simple enough. There are lots of books on the early topics, and I focused on discipleship in my doctoral work. For the pastoral training however, I took all my syllabi from seminary and assembled a step by step reading list. I explored other books and updates. I’ve read all books listed in The Approved Workman (except all the Counterpoints Series) and many of the authors have been guests on Salty Believer Unscripted. From my experience, I built a task list of things that should be done with help and supervision to gain practical experience. Then I asked may other professors and pastors for ideas and suggestions. The result is a robust guide. One could check off the steps by going to seminary, or one could do the hard work outside of the seminary--either way, the goal is to become a proficient, trained pastor, missionary, or church planter.

I used the print-on-demand option through Amazon because I wanted the ability to make updates if better resources come along. And honestly, I wasn't sure how many publishers would be okay promoting so much work from other publishers.

If you're looking to grow into a pastor and need some guidance about which steps to take, I pray this book will help you. If you're a pastor looking to train up others, this book was designed for you. I highly encourage you to get a copy, make the edits you need, and starting training up the next generation of pastors, missionaries, and church plants.

Pick up a copy of The Approved Workman by following this link.

I sincerely hope this book serves as a good addition to our efforts to train up the pastors behind us.

For the Kingdom!
Dr. Bryan Catherman

** Special Note: There's a Kindle version of The Approved Workman; however, it's available in that format primarily for the trainer who will not need to write and mark in the book. The Kindle formatting might also become a challenge in the area of task lists.

Holy Noticing by Charles Stone

Dr. Charles Stone, author of Holy Noticing: The Bible, Your Brain, and the Mindful Space Between Moments, delivers again. We go through so much of life mindlessly. We don’t even remember one day to the next, one moment to the next, and we feel scatter-brained. But that’s not how God intended us to live and it’s not how Jesus lived. Stone does a nice job bringing the idea of mindfulness to Christians without importing secularism or ideas of emptying the mind as other religions promote.

I loved Stone’s previous book, Brain-Savvy Leaders: The Science of Significant Ministry. That book was a wonderful mix of science and Scripture, written in both an easy-to-understand and a simple-to-implement way. (Dr. Stone is a leading expert in neurological leadership.) But mindfulness? Everything I ever see in that area draws from Buddhism or secular-humanism or other odd places. I was nervous.

Then we had Stone on Salty Believer Unscripted to talk about Holy Noticing. Moody sent me an advanced copy and I started reading. I was pleased to see that this book was nothing as I feared. Reading the first few chapters and talking with Stone, it was obvious this book, like the previous one, is a good mix of science and Scripture. Also, the book is full of instruction and practice tips so a follower of Jesus Christ can engage in the discipline of spiritual awareness or, if you’d prefer a different term, holy noticing.

You can listen to the Salty Believer Unscripted interview below. And follow this link to purchase your copy of Holy Noticing. I highly recommend this book for anyone wanting to become more aware of what God is doing in our lives and how he created us to see him working better.

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A Conversation with Dave Rhodes about Younique

Dave Rhodes is a tool-maker. He’s a pastor. He’s the co-founder of Younique. He’s involved in 10,000 Fathers and 100 Movements. But he’s only doing one thing. “He’s working to make the church a agent again by training believers in wisdom and power.” Dave met with Bryan Catherman via Skype to discuss Younique, calling, and identity. They also talked about reproducible tools for discipleship, discovery, and and what Dave does at Younique to help people design the dream God has for them and then determine how to live that out. It was a robust conversation worth checking out.

Also, if you’re in the Atlanta area and not connected with a local church, go visit Grace Fellowship Church where Dave is the Pastor of Discipleship & Movement Initiatives.

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A Conversation with Will Mancini about Clarity

Author and tool maker, Will Mancini join us on Salty Believer Unscripted to talk about clarity. Of course, we discussed is books and projects, but when you get right down to it, they all seem to revolved around the significance of clarity. And Will is serious about clarity.

Will Mancini is the author of Church Unique: How Missional Leaders Cast Vision, Capture Culture, and Create Movement, God Dreams: 12 Vision Templates for Finding and Focusing Your Church’s Future, and others. His forthcoming book is titled, Younique: Designing the Life that God Dreamed for You. He is also the founder of Auxano and the co-founder of Younique. He discusses a little bit of all of these in the podcast.

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Inside the UISBC: Planning the Annual Meeting

The Utah-Idaho Southern Baptist Convention holds an annual gathering where all the messengers of Utah and Idaho come together for mutual encouragement and to conduct the necessary business for the year. But there’s usually not as much business as one might thing. In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Bryan Catherman and Jared Jenkins (both elected officers of the UISBC) share what went into the planning for this year’s annual meeting. While there’s a lot more to be done as we get closer to the meeting, they discuss the initial meeting and why getting involved is valuable.

Listen to this week’s episode, “Inside the UISBC: Planning the Annual Meeting” here:

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