Landmines in Systematic Theology: Creation

What are the landmines in the theology of creation? There are many! These differences have greatly divided churches. There are even entire ministries dedicated to the issues and landmines in the theology of creation. In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, the Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker discuss many of the debates and challenges of the creation account, what the Bible says about the mines, and the disagreements within the Christian Church. It’s a complex issue with complex question. Listen to this episode wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts, or listen here:

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Landmines in Systematic Theology: Course Correction

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman come to realize they can’t cover systematic theology as it should be in a 20-minute podcast format. It’s just too difficult to go through systematic theology well in 20-minute bits. Therefore, they are making a course correction, adjusting now to look at the landmines and the stuff of controversy. Instead, they discuss the controversies. What are the hot buttons in Christian theology? Listen in and find out.

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Pastor, Can I Speak To You About Tactical Gear?

Sometimes I feel like I've lived two different lives, or at least dwelt in two worlds. It gets extra strange when those worlds collide. Years ago, I was an Army Staff Sergeant in Iraq. Today, I am a theologically-trained pastor in Utah. Last Sunday, I needed the realities of both.

By God's grace, Ukrainian refugees have not only started attending Redeeming Life Church, but some have also become members. My sermons are translated into Ukrainian so those who struggle with English can pop in an earpiece and hear a real-time translation. We have a class in Ukrainian. We're making friends and learning so much. And we have all the expected joys and struggles of a multicultural church body.

On Sunday, one of the Ukrainian fathers and his wife approached me. He asked me something in Ukrainian. His wife translated. "Pastor, may I speak with you as a soldier."

I know that part of his story involves serving in the military of the Soviet Union, and he fought in Afghanistan. I did not know what he was about to say or ask. As the conversation went on, I learned he needed help buying first aid equipment and replacement tactical gear for family members and friends on the front lines in Ukraine. After more than a year of battle, their gear is worn out, and first-aid bandages are scarce.

We went to my office, and I pulled up my computer. We opened ChatGPT, Google Maps, Amazon, and Facebook. We examined photos of Ukrainian soldiers on Facebook to see what gear they are using. Some wear much older-style load-bearing equipment (web gear) I used in my earlier Army years. Others had newer tactical gear, not unlike what I wore in Iraq. Using ChatGPT to translate more detailed information, an old soldier from the Soviet Union era and an American veteran, 20 years removed from the fight, viewed pictures of their gear, searched on Amazon, compared various options, and then I pointed him to a vast Army-Navy Surplus store in our area.

I can't shake what is happening. God is using experiences from my past to bridge me to people in the church who are in great need today. We have refugee people struggling with PTSD, others afraid for their family and friends who remain behind, and all trying to lead their families through starting over in a strange new world.

And also, I am broken over the great need. I was in OIF I when shortages meant we were issued only one SAPI plate (armor) and had to decide if it would protect the front or back. We didn't have up-armored HMMWVs. We felt the shortages, but that didn't last too long. These guys are fighting for their homeland, and there's no end on the horizon. Now, I'm ready to scrape together all my nickels and dimes, open a lemonade stand, and figure out how to get my new friend's family members the first aid bandages they need, and maybe some tactical gear to stay safe.

What Happens When Popular Pastors Retire?

Sometimes popular pastors and preachers retire from full-time work at a specific local church and there’s no issue. The church finds a new lead pastor and the ministry continues with little to no problem. But sometimes a church has built the ministry around the popularity of the pastor or preacher and the church suffers greatly when the man retires. How should we think of this? Is there anything that can be done? Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker really don’t know the answer, but they think about it and discuss it in an open conversation. Listen in and see what thoughts you might have on the topic as they discuss the topic on this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Listen wherever you get your podcasts or listen here:

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Preachers Should Listen to Preaching Weekly

A preacher should listen to preaching. He does this not to help him preach better (although that is a possible byproduct) but to listen to the preached Word. Most preachers can make a biblical argument for the power of preaching, God's intention for the sufficiency of the proclaimed Word, and how that proclamation changes lives. In some circles, preaching is understood as a part of the ordinary means of grace. So if the preacher believes this for those who hear his preaching, he should also seek out and listen to good preaching weekly for himself. 

Imagine my concern when I asked a young professor with a doctorate in homiletics who he regularly listens to for his edification, and he said he didn't. Instead, he listens to a podcast of various biblical scholars discussing Scripture. Another pastor once said he goes to an annual pastor's conference where he can hear four or five sermons. "This is great," I remarked, "but what would you say to a church member if the only time she listened to preaching was at a weekend conference?" Both of these preacher's views demonstrate a low opinion of preaching.  

Inevitably, I'll go to conferences or annual meetings within my denomination, and there will be as many people chatting in the lobby as in the main room during the preaching. Typically, the younger church planters and their network leaders are in the foyer while the seasoned pastors sit under the preached sermons. How telling! Sadly, I've spent too much time in the lobby when God could have significantly blessed me through preaching of his Word. As a church planter, I needed God's Word preached by a faithful pastor in the trenches far more than I needed what little I got in the lobby from other church planters.  

Recently, I watched a national pastors' conference packed full of preaching. When it came time to elect the Pastor's Conference President for the following year, pastors poured in with their favorite preacher-guy to get him elected. Even on the live stream, you could see them taking selfies with their hero-preacher. They were talking and cutting up in the back of the room while a brother was preaching. Yet, the hero and his fanboys all claim they are serious about the preached Word of God. Their actions spoke otherwise.    

Here are some tips for preachers that I've found helpful. And I believe they'd be beneficial for non-preachers too! 

1. Develop a habit of listening to preaching every week. We know it's better to be at worship services than not, but it's different for the regular preacher. It's also better to have a steady diet of sermons than not. Therefore, the preacher needs to find ways to get a steady diet of preaching. The diet may not be the best (because it's recorded, for example), but a weekly habit will prove valuable over the long haul. 

2. Seek opportunities to sit under live preaching. It's much easier for a preacher in a church with a plurality of preaching Elders to sit under live preaching, but not every preacher has that, and it is rare to have that every week. Make an effort to attend conferences where the Word of God is preached. Try setting up a monthly meeting of preachers where one of the group preaches to the others and trade-off. Or even find a mid-week or afternoon, or morning service elsewhere you can attend to sit under live preaching.  

3. Leverage Technology. While it's always better to be in the room with other brothers and sisters sitting under live preaching, that can't always happen for the preacher. But we live in a beautiful time of technology. Install apps or subscribe to podcasts of sermons. Since the recordings are missing aspects of the live preaching, listen to two or three sermons per week. It won't ultimately make up for the lack, but it will help. 

I hit a point while church planting when I felt empty and malnourished. I didn't feel this way while on staff at another church. What happened? Many were telling me, "church planting is hard work." The hard work is actual, but it's no excuse for spiritual malnutrition. Rather than be encouraged to sit under preaching, I was given more books about hard work and sent to conferences where they gave me "best practices" for doing the hard work. I was invited to lunches with other church planters, where inevitably, we'd all compare ourselves to one another and then hear more tips for doing the work. Oh, how I could have used a faithful, biblical sermon from the Word of God at those lunches!  

I eventually realized that I needed to sit under preaching. So I determined to seek opportunities to sit under live preaching and found some here and there. I downloaded some apps and subscribed to some church sermon podcasts nationally and locally. I went back and watched all the T4G sermons on Youtube. It was great, but then a week passed when I didn't listen to a sermon. Then two. Then a few.  

Early in my Christian walk, I learned that the best way to read the Bible and develop Bible reading habits is to have a plan. Thanks to read-through-in-a-year plans, I've read the Bible many times, sometimes even two or three times a year. Habits were formed and kept. I started tracking my progress. It's not legalism but a way to help me stay accountable. If I miss a day, I notice and get back to it. I'm also highly encouraged to see the fruit of faithful plodding.  

Shortly after COVID hit, I decided I needed a plan to sit under the preached Word. I needed a way to track my regular progress. At the time of this writing, I'm reflecting on the 3rd anniversary of the start of my tracking. I've listened to 408 sermons preached by 87 different preachers. I know thirty-two of those men and call them friends, most of whom pastor (or pastored) locally. Some preachers are more well-known, and some are obscure. Some men are dead, or if not, the sermons I heard were preached long ago. Some sermons were preached only days earlier or live-streamed. Some were heard in person, in the room. I've listened to some great and some less-than-great preaching, but most of it was faithful. It works out to 2-3 sermons per week, but in reality, it was typically only one sermon per week when I sat under live preaching and four or five on the weeks when I didn't. And through all of it, my soul has been incredibly blessed by the preaching of God's Word.  

The bottom line is that if Christians should listen to weekly preaching, the preacher must too. He should listen to others preach the Word every week. And today, that's not too tough to do, even for the preacher. Faith comes by hearing (Romans 10:17). Christians should listen to their pastors every week. The preacher should be wise enough to find good preaching to sit under every week. It can start today.  

Persuasion in Preaching with Robert Kinney (Part 2)

Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker hosted Robert Kinney on Salty Believer Unscripted to discuss persuasion in preaching. It was a long conversation so we broke it into two episodes. Robert is the Director of Ministries with Charles Simeon Trust. He’s also an Anglican minister in Vienna, Austria. What is the necessity of persuasion in preaching. Why is argument and a structure that reflects and argument necessary for any sermon? How do we get to correct biblical argument from the Text? Listen to Part 2 of this conversation on Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you listen to podcasts, or listen here:

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Persuasion in Preaching with Robert Kinney (Part 1)

Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman hosted Robert Kinney on Salty Believer Unscripted to discuss persuasion in preaching. Robert is the Director of Ministries with Charles Simeon Trust. He’s also an Anglican minister in Vienna, Austria. What is the necessity of persuasion in preaching. Why is argument and a structure that reflects and argument necessary for any sermon? Part 1 of this 2-part episode, they discussed these questions and many more. Listen to Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you get your podcasts or listen here:

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Three Endings for Mark?

Consider the end of Mark 16. The task might not be as easy as you think. Where is the end of Mark 16? There's debate, and the last questionable line is verse 8. This verse may be the end of the book of Mark. You likely have more in your copy of God's Word, probably through verse 20. Depending on your translation, there may be brackets around verses 9-20. There may be a note about verses 9-20.  

You may even have two endings if you're reading the NLT, NRSV, CNT, or CEB. In those translations, after verse 8, it says (probably in brackets): "And all that has been commanded to them they quickly reported to those around Peter. After these things, Jesus himself sent out throughout them from east to west, the holy and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation, Amen." This addition is one of two proposed ending that picks up after verse 8. The other is what we typically see in other Bible translations as verses 9-20. Given that both proposed endings pick up after verse 8, most scholars believe that either the last part of Mark's gospel was torn off and lost after verse 8, or ended at verse 8.  

If you read Greek, it's easy to see that the additional ending isn't the same as the rest of Mark. We don't find either of these endings in the earliest known manuscripts.   

This could go a lot of ways. Maybe the original ending was lost. Perhaps what we have in our Bible was verbally handed down over the years, and eventually, a scribe added it in writing, and now we've reclaimed what was lost. Maybe God superintended later inspiration to a scribe. People have put all of these arguments forward.  

But let us not overlook that Mark's gospel may have ended this abruptly for a reason.  

If the shorter ending was the point, what does that say? Why? It says that the ladies were expected to believe the messenger. We are also expected to believe the messengers and witnesses that proclaim the gospel. The ladies were told to tell others. We are also commanded to tell others. We should also see that the story isn't about the ladies but about the Risen Lord. And that story continues even now when we hear that Jesus is Risen.  

It is an abrupt ending, but it seems fitting given the purpose of the Gospel. If indeed it ends there, it's handing the decision and the continuing story back to the reader. Now, what do you say about Jesus?  Is he risen?

"Discontinuity to Continuity" by Benjamin Merkle

In the video below, Bryan Catherman reviews and recommends Benjamin Merkle's book, Discontinuity to Continuity: A Survey of Dispensational & Convenatal Theologies (Lexham Press, 2020). While the book is like a 4-views book, there's something that distinctly different and that is why it's worth considering. The book is a survey of the 6 views but Merkle gets the info from the top writers from each of the views. In a systematic fashion, Merkle explores the spectrum from Classic Dispensationalism, to Revised Dispensationalism, to Progressive Dispensationalism to Progressive Covenantalism, to Covenant Theology, to Christian Reconstructionalism. It sounds like a lot, but it’s much easier to work through it in six views rather than a simplified two views, that is Dispensationalism vs. Conventionalism. Furthermore, it’s helpful to see that degrees of difference even within discontinuity and continuity.

If you have little idea about the differences between dispensational theology and covenant theology, this is a great place to start. I highly recommend Discontinuity to Continuity by Benjamin Merkle.

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You're a Shepherd, Not a Hammer

On the corner of my desk rests a 60-year-old garage hammer. It was a "gift" from the church staff, given to me in my first year of full-time ministry. I was an aggressive hammer when it came to things of my convictions. I saw it as something to be proud of. The young men I was discipling called my approach a "drive-by ball-busting" (please excuse the language). I saw it as a good thing. An abrasive theological bully, Mark Driscoll, was picking up steam, and I thought he was awesome. I wanted to be like him. From my vantage point, everything was a nail.  

I'm embarrassed by those years and still find myself repenting. 

Two times the Apostle Paul uses a word to describe what Elders should not be. It's πλήκτης (pleektees), and it means "bully." Many translations go with the word "violent." The new Legacy Standard Bible connected with John MacArthur translates it as "pugnacious," meaning "eager or quick to argue, quarrel, or fight." We find the word in 1 Timothy 3:3 and Titus 1:7, and any Pastor knows these are the Elder qualification Texts. An Elder should not be a bully or "pugnacious" but instead gentle and not quarrelsome. In other words, a Pastor shouldn't be a hammer. The one exception is when he's dealing with wolves in the church. Then, and only then, does he need to bring it out.  

Too often, immature Pastors (like I was and still am) get excited by brash, angry, argumentive apologist types. We see debates and arguments and get excited. What was said may be theologically accurate, and the context in which they said these things may have warranted it, but then the Pastor brings it back to the local church and unloads the thunder on the flock. A congregant may not understand an aspect of theology, but instead of teaching with gentleness and shepherding, the Pastor goes into fight mode, seeing it as a wolf's assault on the church. The hammer swings. Boom!  

What we say might be true, but we say it in the wrong way because we didn’t actually say it in love for the other person. In these moments, we are speaking the truth but in love with ourselves.

Pastor, you're not protecting the Bride of Christ from a wolf at that moment. You're smacking Her around and feeling good about yourself.  

Jesus spoke the truth. He did not compromise his convictions. He even flipped some tables. But the Pastor should not overlook Matthew 11:28-30. Jesus says, "Come to me, all of you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take up my yoke and learn from me, because I am lowly and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." Isaiah said of Jesus: "He will not break a bruised reed, and he will not put out a smoldering wick" (Isaiah 42:3).  

A Pastor should have deeply rooted convictions. I do. And a Pastor shouldn't compromise those convictions, especially when the foundation is the Word of God. But he shouldn't be a bully to the people of the church.  

I once heard an apologists say, "You have to shoot down their airplane in such a way that makes them want to land at your airport." I understand what he was trying to say, but we're not machine gunners--we are shepherds. If someone doesn't understand correct theology and we don't teach them, their error is on our heads. If we blast away at them to destroy the error, we're not teaching, and we ourselves are in error to Scripture.  

How do I correct, rebuke, teach, and encourage in love?   

I once watched Dr. James White debate in Utah. White is known to be an effective pit bull in debates, especially against atheists and non-Christians. He destroys arguments and goes for the jugular. His fans love seeing it and often want to emulate White. But they usually don't understand that there's more than just what they see and want to copy.

White was debating with a man who claimed to be a Christian. The debate was on some non-essential-to-salvation matter. It quickly became apparent that his opponent wasn't a Christian and was also terrible at argumentation. Like Russel Crowe, White could have slaughtered his opponent, turned to the crowd, and shouted, "Are you not entertained!" His fanboys would have eaten it up. His popularity would have soared, the views would have been in the millions, and pictures would have been turned into memes still to this day. But that's not what he did because to him the debate was secondary. Instead, he turned off his microphone and turned his back to the crowd. We could hardly hear, but he invited his opponent to sit, and they discussed the biblical gospel while waited, totally ignored. It was a beautiful display I would never have imagined seeing from White. He wasn’t concerned about making sure his opponent knew he was right or smart. James White was concerned about his opponent’s soul and saw it as the right moment to gently instruct and display the gospel.   

As Pastors, we must realize that shepherding is gentle and lowly. We can't roll over bruised and battered people. If their faith is smoldering, even if it is theologically wrong, we can't snuff it out. God has called us to help people know God. He's called us to correct those errors but gently, in and with love.    

I still struggle, but I pray the Lord will help me. 

I recently taught a systematic theology class where I pastor. There were differing views in the class, some of which I sharply disagree with. I expressed that we should have our convictions, but they must be based on the Word of God. I shared my convictions and did my best to share other views fairly and accurately. I didn't set out to blast my fellow brothers and sisters but to have a discussion. I gently let them know that I would have to teach my convictions and do my best to present my view as best as possible with the Bible, but it was up to them to agree with it or not. I worked hard not to say I was right but that I found my position the most compelling. I listened to the other views. I thought about them. And what happened was more conversation. My gentle approach helped them learn, if nothing else, what my view is. Some came to my position on some things, but not everything. It's a slow, gentle work in progress. And it's hard work for this hammer. I don't always get it right, but I want to.     

I didn't come to my convictions overnight. It took me time to work through my beliefs. Others had to correct me, and I'm glad they were gentle. I suspect that you didn't get where you got as fast as you want others to get there. Offer them the same grace you needed to get to your present convictions. And be a shepherd along the way, not a hammer. 

To God be the glory! 

Wives Aren't Commanded to Love Their Husbands?

Once again, I am encouraged by how important it is to read and know our Bible. And once again, I am reminded how easy it is to simply but dangerously trust other authors and preachers about the Bible without knowing ourselves.

This morning I read Titus 2. One word arrested my attention and launched me on a simple study: love. 

The author of a popular marriage book I've used in counseling wrote something like, Men are commanded to love their wives, but women are only commanded to respect their husbands.  He based his argument on Ephesians 5:22-33. In those verses, he's correct, but he went on to say that nowhere in the Bible is a woman told to love her husband. Sadly, I repeated his words, trusting that his statement was correct. However, he is wrong, so I've repeated his false information.  (I'm very sorry if I've shared this lie with you. I was wrong.) 

Titus 2:4 says that older women are to teach younger women "to love their husbands and to love their children."

I opened my Greek New Testament. The word is similar to phileo and means to have affection for or show love to your husband. 

Out of curiosity, I quickly researched and discovered that the popular author had received some pushback about his statements. He wrote a blog post and recorded a video, I suspect, to defend his argument. He appealed to a widespread and often repeated misunderstanding of the three primary Greek words for love. "Misunderstanding" may be too strong of a word, but indeed an over-realized sense of category. In other words, trusting other teachers, sometimes we think of the three Greek words for love as degree levels, but that doesn't capture the proper nuance.

The author says that agape love is unconditional love. He argues that phileo love is a friendship component or friendship love, but it's not love-love or unconditional like agape. Instead, it's a lower level of love or a different kind of love. And finally, he says there's the eros which is sexual (which we find nowhere in the Greek New Testament). This all sounds nice, but it over-simplifies these terms. It has some truth, but it's far more complicated.

For example, Jesus says, "Even sinners (agape) love those who (agape) love them" (Luke 6:23). He's getting at a condition, isn't he? Jesus was encouraged to heal the centurion's servant because the centurion "(agape) loves our nation and built us a synagogue" (Luke 7:5). It turns out we can (agape) love money, darkness, and fame (Matthew 6:24, John 3:19, and John 12:43).

When we look at phileo love, Jesus said, "For the Father (phileo) loves the Son and shows him everything he is doing" (John 520). That sounds like more than friendship. He also said, "for as many as I (phileo) love, I rebuke" (Revelation 3:19). John 16:27 says, "For the Father himself loves you because you have (phileo) loved me." 1 Corinthians 16:22 says, "If anyone does not (phileo) love the Lord, a curse be on him."

Returning to the author's statement that nowhere in the Bible is a wife commanded to (agape) love her husband, we should consider Jesus' commands. Jesus said, "I give you a new command: (agape) love one another. Just as I have (agape) loved you, you are also to (agape) love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you (agape) love one another" (John 13:34). He also said, "(agape) love your neighbor" (Mark 12:23) and "(agape) love your enemies" (John 6:27). So clearly, God has commanded wives to (agape) love their husbands, even if her husband is not a believer, and even if they are estranged and fighting, not even living together. God has also instructed young women to (phileo) love their husbands and children (Titus 2:4).   

The author also argued that the woman is not "commanded" to (agape) love her husband because she already naturally does this. Still, she doesn't naturally have a friendship (phileo) relationship with her husband. He says it's precisely the opposite for the husband, so God doesn't command the husband to have a (phileo) friendship with his wife, but the husband is commanded to (agape) love her. This idea is a broad-sweeping over-generalization and is nowhere demonstrated in the Bible.

This entire thing should remind us how essential reading and studying the Bible is for God's flock. If we don't read and study for ourselves, we'll likely eat lousy food from any source without discernment.

Study on!

SBU: Tension Between the Gospel and Politics

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman discuss a listener’s question about the tension between our political arguments and the gospel. How do we keep the gospel first when the world around us is rallying political arguments in light of tragedy. The context comes on the heals of another school shooting. How should the Christian engage with his or her co-workers, friends, and neighbors? Regardless of our thoughts about gun control, the 2nd Amendment, mental health, transgender issues or any of the other political hot buttons during these difficult times, how do we keep our primary objective on the primary problem—sin and our need for the gospel of Jesus Christ? That’s the topic of this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Listen wherever you get your podcasts, or listen here:

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What's With All the Soft Prosperity Gospel Ads?

What is the deal with all the soft prosperity gospel advertisements inviting people to church? Especially around Easter? It’s not that advertising is bad or inviting people to church is bad. But the way some churches are doing it seem to promote the Soft Prosperity Gospel, In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman discuss the Soft Prosperity Gospel and its ramifications. What is the Soft Prosperity Gospel? How are we seeing it in these advertisements? What is the motivation driving the use of the Soft Prosperity Gospel to grow churches and reach the lost? What should we think about the Soft Prosperity Gospel? Listen to this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you listen to podcasts or listen here:

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Fireballs Prevent the Third Temple?

Julianus Augustus was the Emperor of Rome from AD 361-363. History has branded him "Julian the Apostate" because after his uncle Constantine opened the door to Christianity in Rome, Julian worked hard to reverse these measures while he was the Emperor. Julian hated Christianity and wanted it erased from the face of the earth. Although he was raised as a Christian and was trained under leading Christian bishops, he wanted nothing to do with Christianity by the time he was 20.

As soon as he was Emperor, he started working to return Rome to her former paganism. He thought restoring Judaism might be a way to push Christianity out of Jerusalem, and to do the job right, he decided the Jewish people needed their temple again. He set out to have a 3rd temple built on the temple mount.

A pagan historian named Ammianus Marcellinus recorded the following:

"[Julianus Augustus] had entrusted the speedy performance of this work to Alypius of Antioch, who had once been vice-prefect of Britain. But, though this Alypius pushed the work on with vigor, aided by the governor of the province, terrifying balls of flame kept bursting forth near the foundations of the temple, and made the place inaccessible to the workmen, some of whom were burned to death; and since in this way the element persistently repelled them, the enterprise halted" (Ammianus Marcellinus, Res Gestae, XXIII.1).

The work on the temple ceased because of balls of bursting flames. Some of the workers were killed! And notice that this was not a one-time event. It was persistent. Thus, not even the Emperor of Rome could rebuild the temple.

Church history is fun.

SBU: Help for Newer but Not Totally New Preachers

Jeremy Meeks joined Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker on Salty Believer Unscripted again to talk about preaching. In this episode, Josiah asked Jeremy about help for newer preachers but not brand new preachers. Jeremy offers some ideas to help the preacher who’s preached about 30 sermons. The preacher is not completely green, but needing some help to get comfortable in the preaching saddle. Jeremy Meeks is the Director of the Chicago Course with the Charles Simeon Trust. Listen to this episode wherever you listen to podcasts, or listen here:

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What is the Chicago Course? (With Jeremy Meeks)

Jeremy Meeks joined Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker to talk about the Chicago Course, a program through the Charles Simeon Trust. What is the Chicago Course? Why enroll in the Chicago course? What if a person can’t pack up and live in Chicago for a year? Are there any plans to take this program to other cities? How can a group of preachers start their own cohort to improve their preaching? What are the “under fire” preaching feedback sessions? Jeremy answers these questions and many more. Listen to this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you listen to podcasts or listen here:

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Dig Deeper by Nigel Beynon & Andrew Sach

Looking to learn how to study the Bible better? Dig Deeper: Tools for Understanding God’s Word by Nigel Beynon & Andrew Sach is an easy but robust place to start. It’s a simple little book that will help you build a toolbox for better study. Bryan Catherman highly recommends the book:

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SBU: Charles Simeon Trust

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker asks Bryan Catherman for a good preaching resource for guys who have preached a few sermons but are ready to start sharpening the peaching saw. He recommends Charles Simeon Trust and explains how he finds it so beneficial to good preaching. Listen to the episode here or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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SBU: Best Resource for New Preachers

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker asks Bryan Catherman for one (or maybe two) recommendations for guys who are called to preach and just getting started. What should the new preacher know and learn? Is there a book or class? Where does a guy start? Listen to this episode wherever you listen to podcasts, or listen here:

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SBU: Should We Preach the Silent Years?

The Silent Years is the period of about 400-430 years when God was silent in regard to his prophetic revelation to his people. It’s the blank page between the Old and New Testaments. Should we preach this period, and if so, how do we go about preaching a blank page? It’s is a challenging task because it is significant to the biblical timeline but comes from the lack of a Text. Is it possible to preach this section of the biblical narrative? Should we preach it? If so, how? Join Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker as they discuss how to preach the Silent Years on this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Listen wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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